topic Re: Smartzone & Probe request without SPoT in SmartZone and Virtual SmartZone

Smartzone & Probe request without SPoT

thomas_sheppard — Thu, 20 May 2021 17:50:04 GMT

Hi all,

I am wondering is it possible for smartzone or the AP's themselves to forward all the probe requests they receive to anywhere other than SPoT? The SPoT licenses are prohibitively expensive and we would like the raw data (MAC, RSSI, Time)

Thanks

Tom

Re: Smartzone & Probe request without SPoT

sunny_gupta — Thu, 20 May 2021 17:52:51 GMT

You can actually stream the location data to another system other than SPoT directly from SZ.

Re: Smartzone & Probe request without SPoT

thomas_sheppard — Thu, 20 May 2021 17:55:56 GMT

@sunny_gupta how would you do that Sunny is there some instructions somewhere?

Thanks for the reply!

Re: Smartzone & Probe request without SPoT

sunny_gupta — Thu, 20 May 2021 18:04:00 GMT

Hi,

I haven't done this, but as I understand it you would just define your custom location server within the Location Service configuration section. It should be configured to receive the MQTT stream.

You would just define your LBS instead of Ruckus SPoT.

That said, i see SPoT as relatively low-cost?? But I suppose it depends on # of APs and your budget...

Re: Smartzone & Probe request without SPoT

DarrelRhodes — Thu, 20 May 2021 19:44:08 GMT

Hi Tom,

I believe it may be possible to engineer a solution to extract AP-Client RSSI values directly from the SmartZone controller.

I recommend you pursue this query via your Ruckus partner who will most likely need to request further information through their Ruckus SE. Is this something you're able to do?

If you need any assistance with the above, please let me know.

Best regards,
Darrel.

Re: Smartzone & Probe request without SPoT

thomas_sheppard — Thu, 20 May 2021 20:08:09 GMT

@darrel_rhodes does the option sunny has mentioned above not work?

I do not have a Ruckus partner and was hoping to get to the answer quickly (tonight preferably) as it's part of a tender response.

Re: Smartzone & Probe request without SPoT

eizens_putnins — Fri, 21 May 2021 07:59:39 GMT

You can do it for sure. For my understanding, SZ just sends the stream of location data to specified IP address.

Similar to SPoT solutions are all expensive. They also are not that useful in practice, as you could think -- as precision is not very high. These are 2 main reasons why almost nobody uses them for industry, but just for marketing (as marketing doesn't require really precise data), if at all.

There are better solutions if you need precise client positioning for the industry. All practically used RTLS systems use some additional ways to enhance the precision of localization (beacons, infrared, additional calibration, etc).

Benefits of reusing WiFi infrastructure are unfortunately compensated by the high cost and low precision of WiFi RTLS systems.

There have been lately developed other systems, which use short-range beckons + client communicating over some network (as WiFi) for positioning, or beckons moving in a network of receiving sensors (depending if there are a few trackable device or many of them).