topic Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable in RUCKUS Support for Lennar Homes

Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

chadm — Sun, 21 Apr 2024 19:28:13 GMT

I have several C12Ps, all running 9.0.10j:

#show ver
Copyright (c) Ruckus Networks, Inc. All rights reserved.
UNIT 1: compiled on Jan 12 2024 at 09:59:12 labeled as SPR09010j
(33554432 bytes) from Primary SPR09010j.bin (UFI)
SW: Version 09.0.10jT213
Compressed Primary Boot Code size = 786944, Version:10.1.26T225 (mnz10126)
Compiled on Tue Nov 29 07:43:26 2022

The admin guide indicates that dynamic PoE power is configurable:
https://docs.commscope.com/bundle/fastiron-09010-managementguide/page/GUID-CAA036D6-595D-4481-A140-2CFAFD05B0CB.html

"If you want to configure Static PM to a specific port after enabling Dynamic PM on all ports, configure the required ports with priority 1. Unless the Power Supply Unit (PSU) is removed, Priority 1 ports will never lose power. The following is an example of configuring a specific port to Static PM after Dynamic PM has been configured."

device# configure terminal
device(config)#inline power allocation dynamic all
device(config)# interface ethernet 1/1/15
device(config-if-e1000-1/1/15)#inline power priority 1

However, the CLI does not recognize this command:
SSH@adjunct.madison911.net(config)#inline power allocation dynamic all
Invalid input ->allocation dynamic all
Type ? for a list
Node doesn't exist
SSH@blah.net(config)#

I need this feature in the switch, as I cannot add additional access points to my homes' switches. Despite each AP using at most 11 watts at peak, the switch preallocates 30watts from the budget, limiting the deployment to 4 APs at most. This is well known of course in the 8.x line of code, which is why I moved to 9.0.10j as the release notes and admin guide indicated (as above) that dynamic power was available.

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

Imran_ruckus — Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:52:30 GMT

Hi @chadm
Greetings!!!

Thank you for contacting the RUCKUS Community forums.

Could you please let me know if this is a RUCKUS Lennar Home RUCKUS setup?

Please confirm.

Thank you again.

Best regards,

Imran Sanadi

RUCKUS Lennar Home Community.

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

chadm — Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:42:56 GMT

Correct. I have multiple Lennar Homes, each outfitted with the ICX 7150 C12P

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

Imran_ruckus — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 12:51:01 GMT

Hi @chadm

Greetings!!!

Thank you for the response and the confirmation.

Could you please help us with the below command outputs to check further?

Please enter the below commands once you log in to CLI and share the output.

Note: Hit Enter to accept each command

enable

show version

show flash

show inline power
show interface brief

Please let me know if you have any queries in this regard.

Thank you again. We appreciate your patience and understanding.

Best regards,

Imran Sanadi

RUCKUS Lennar Home Community.

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

chadm — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:39:41 GMT

Not a problem. See below.

show version
Copyright (c) Ruckus Networks, Inc. All rights reserved.
UNIT 1: compiled on Jan 12 2024 at 09:59:12 labeled as SPR09010j
(33554432 bytes) from Primary SPR09010j.bin (UFI)
SW: Version 09.0.10jT213
Compressed Primary Boot Code size = 786944, Version:10.1.26T225 (mnz10126)
Compiled on Tue Nov 29 07:43:26 2022

HW: Stackable ICX7150-C12-POE
==========================================================================
UNIT 1: SL 1: ICX7150-C12-2X1G POE 12-port Management Module
Serial #:<redacted for security>
Software Package: ICX7150_L3_SOFT_PACKAGE
Current License: 2X10GR
P-ASIC 0: type B160, rev 11 Chip BCM56160_B0
==========================================================================
UNIT 1: SL 2: ICX7150-2X1GC 2-port 2G Module
==========================================================================
UNIT 1: SL 3: ICX7150-2X10GF 2-port 20G Module
==========================================================================
1000 MHz ARM processor ARMv7 88 MHz bus
8 MB boot flash memory
2 GB code flash memory
1 GB DRAM
STACKID 1 system uptime is 42 day(s) 20 hour(s) 36 minute(s) 22 second(s)
The system started at 14:47:27 GMT-06 Mon Mar 11 2024

The system : started=cold start

--
show flash
Stack unit 1:
NAND Type: Micron NAND 2GiB (x 1)
Compressed Pri Code size = 33554432, Version:09.0.10jT213 (SPR09010j.bin)
Compressed Sec Code size = 33554432, Version:09.0.10jT213 (SPR09010j.bin)
Compressed Pri Boot Code size = 786944, Version:10.1.26T225 (mnz10126)
Compressed Sec Boot Code size = 786944, Version:10.1.26T225 (mnz10126)
Code Flash Free Space = 857878528

--
show inline power

Power Capacity: Total is 124000 mWatts. Current Free is 8600 mWatts.

Power Allocations: Requests Honored 29 times

Port Admin Oper ---Power(mWatts)--- PD Type PD Class Pri Fault/
State State Consumed Allocated Error
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1/1/1 On On 8600 28850 2P-IEEE Class 4 3 n/a
1/1/2 On On 9800 28850 2P-IEEE Class 4 3 n/a
1/1/3 On On 8000 28850 2P-IEEE Class 4 3 n/a
1/1/4 On On 8800 28850 2P-IEEE Class 4 3 n/a
1/1/5 On Off 0 0 n/a n/a 3 n/a
1/1/6 On Off 0 0 n/a n/a 3 n/a
1/1/7 On Off 0 0 n/a n/a 3 n/a
1/1/8 On Off 0 0 n/a n/a 3 n/a
1/1/9 On Off 0 0 n/a n/a 3 n/a
1/1/10 On Off 0 0 n/a n/a 3 n/a
1/1/11 On Off 0 0 n/a n/a 3 n/a
1/1/12 On Off 0 0 n/a n/a 3 n/a
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total 35200 115400

show int br
Port Link State Dupl Speed Trunk Tag Pvid Pri MAC Name
1/1/1 Up Forward Full 1G None Yes 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/1/2 Up Forward Full 1G None Yes 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/1/3 Up Forward Full 1G None Yes 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/1/4 Up Forward Full 1G None Yes 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/1/5 Down None None None None No 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/1/6 Down None None None None No 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/1/7 Down None None None None No 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/1/8 Down None None None None No 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/1/9 Down None None None None No 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/1/10 Down None None None None No 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/1/11 Down None None None None No 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/1/12 Down None None None None No 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/2/1 Down None None None None No 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/2/2 Down None None None None No 10 0 <redacted for security>
1/3/1 Down None None None None Yes 1 0 <redacted for security>
1/3/2 Up Forward Full 1G None Yes 1 0 <redacted for security>
mgmt1 Down None None None None No None 0 <redacted for security>

Port Link State Dupl Speed Trunk Tag Pvid Pri MAC Name
ve10 Up N/A N/A N/A None N/A N/A N/A <redacted for security>

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

Imran_ruckus — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:49:59 GMT

Hi @chadm

Thank you for the response and the information you shared.

I see your Switch is Running on SPR code.

For Lennar homes RUCKUS setup, we suggest to keep the Switch on the SPS Code and keep the default configurations.

We suggest you upgrading your Switch to the SPS code version. When you connect PoE device to the Switch it will allocate the required power to those particular devices automatically. And not required any static assignments until and unless there is not any requirements for static changes.

Please let me know if you have any queries in this regard.

Thank you again.

Best regards,

Imran Sanadi

RUCKUS Lennar Home Community.

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

chadm — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:02:58 GMT

I am happy to change the code from R to S, however that doesn't address the original problem statement (re-stated for convenience below):

The admin guide indicates that dynamic PoE power is configurable:
https://docs.commscope.com/bundle/fastiron-09010-managementguide/page/GUID-CAA036D6-595D-4481-A140-2...

"If you want to configure Static PM to a specific port after enabling Dynamic PM on all ports, configure the required ports with priority 1. Unless the Power Supply Unit (PSU) is removed, Priority 1 ports will never lose power. The following is an example of configuring a specific port to Static PM after Dynamic PM has been configured."

device# configure terminal
device(config)#inline power allocation dynamic all
device(config)# interface ethernet 1/1/15
device(config-if-e1000-1/1/15)#inline power priority 1

However, the CLI does not recognize this command:
SSH@adjunct.madison911.net(config)#inline power allocation dynamic all
Invalid input ->allocation dynamic all
Type ? for a list
Node doesn't exist

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

Imran_ruckus — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:28:59 GMT

Hi @chadm

Thank you for the response.

Please note, that the commands you are trying to execute are introduced for 10.0.00 and later versions. Please refer to the below link for the same.

https://docs.commscope.com/bundle/fastiron-10010-commandref/page/GUID-A9DECF76-1A06-41E8-BF5C-4DDABFC91F1A.html

For the upgrade process for Lennar users, please refer to the below RUCKUS Lennar Knowledge base self-help article and upgrade to the recommended version for Lennar home RUCKUS Switch.

https://community.ruckuswireless.com/t5/RUCKUS-Lennar-Support-Knowledge/How-to-upgrade-RUCKUS-ICX-7150-C12P-from-Non-Unified-Forwarding/ta-p/71353

Note: you can ignore the 8080f version from the guide and upgrade/downgrade to the UFI version directly.

Please let me know if you have any queries in this regard.

Thank you again for your patience and understanding.

Best regards,

Imran Sanadi

RUCKUS Lennar Home Community.

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

chadm — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:20:49 GMT

As per the link I shared, the documentation illustrates the use of the command in 9.0.10, hence the reason I updated my C12P to 9.0.10:

https://docs.commscope.com/bundle/fastiron-09010-managementguide/page/GUID-CAA036D6-595D-4481-A140-2CFAFD05B0CB.html

There does not appear to be a firmware image/version of 10.0.x for the C12P, hence the reason I opened this issue. We need 10.0.10 for the C12P, or we need 9.0.x on the C12P to support the dynamic PoE implementation to enable full usage of PoE devices based on their usage, rather than their class.

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

Imran_ruckus — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:32:01 GMT

Hi @chadm

Thank you for the response.

From the link you shared, other commands can be executed on other versions. For these commands, I will let the dedicated team know about this and check with them.

To execute those commands you need to be on 10.0.00 or later versions.

Thank you again.

Best regards,

Imran Sanadi

RUCKUS Lennar Home Community.

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

chadm — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:13:57 GMT

Do you have a link to version 10.0.00 for the C12P?

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

Imran_ruckus — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:37:00 GMT

Hi @chadm

Thank you for the response.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

For the RUCKUS ICX-7150-C12P Switch, the latest version that can be upgraded is 09.0.10j (Released in Jan 2024) which your Switch is currently running on. (please refer to the below link for version details for the 7150 Switch)

https://support.ruckuswireless.com/software?filter=108#sort=relevancy&f:@source=[Software%20Downloads]&f:@commonproducts=[ICX%207150]

We suggest you upgrade your Switch on the SPS code with the same version.

Thank you again for your patience.

Best regards,

Imran Sanadi

RUCKUS Lennar Home Community.

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

chadm — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:49:21 GMT

Which brings us back full circle to my original ask. I am respectfully requesting adding 'power allocation dynamic' to the C12P code please. If you see my power usage versus the power allocation in the requested CLI outputs, I am unable to add additional devices to the switch, yet am using a fraction of the total power available due to the static allocation the C12P is currently limited to.

show inline power

Power Capacity: Total is 124000 mWatts. Current Free is 8600 mWatts.

Power Allocations: Requests Honored 29 times

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

Imran_ruckus — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:09:39 GMT

Hi @chadm

Thank you for the response.

Apologies for the confusion you have.

As mentioned before the Lennar 7150-C12P Switches can be used with SPS with no additional configurations.

Dynamic power allocation is not possible on 7150-C12P Switches.

It only supports below mentioned models:

ICX 7550
ICX 7650
ICX 8200

Supported version.

10.0.10 and higher

Until version 9010 we can only have Static Power Management where the inline power on ports are enabled by default. And for 7150-C12P Switch 9010j is the end of support version.

Thank you again for your understanding.

Best regards,

Imran Sanadi

RUCKUS Lennar Home Community.

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

chadm — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:15:09 GMT

There was no confusion. I was asking about a feature that the documentation appeared to indicate was supported. It isn't supported. The documentation would benefit from an update ensuring others that might want to use all the available power their switch alleges, but won't provide due to static allocations, will not be enticed to 9.0.10 thinking it supports dynamic power. It doesn't, and Ruckus won't implement it on this switch. If you want to have more than four Class 4 devices on the same switch, you will have to buy an alternative or adjunct product.

https://docs.commscope.com/bundle/fastiron-09010-managementguide/page/GUID-CAA036D6-595D-4481-A140-2CFAFD05B0CB.html

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

Imran_ruckus — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:25:56 GMT

Hi @chadm

Thank you for the response.

However, you can refer to the below links which can help you adjusting PoE power limit.

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbrY3g3BwZc

Link:

https://docs.commscope.com/bundle/fastiron-08095-managementguide/page/GUID-58622E67-07D7-41E4-B4C6-A9B6F3EA8C74.html

Let me know if you have any queries.

Thank you again for your patience and understanding.

Best regards,

Imran Sanadi

RUCKUS Lennar Home Community.

Re: Ruckus ICX7150 C12P Dynamic PoE Power Unavailable

chadm — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:36:17 GMT

I appreciate that approach, and have already tried it. However, this power limit is communicated to the devices, which influences their performance (e.g. an AP goes into lower power mode if it does not negotiate full class 4 power at boot, despite using less than 11 watts total nominally under full load).

For those looking for a solution, research mid-span multiport Gige PoE injectors. They exist and are far more cost effective than replacing a switch that supports dynamic power allocation. The disadvantages are having a second/middle box, and being unable to shut the ports/power down per ethernet port via the CLI/UI.