topic Re: Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500) in Access Points - Indoor and Outdoor

Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500)

darren_lee — Tue, 07 Dec 2021 10:11:08 GMT

Hi all,

I am now using normal web page to control our Ruckus Unleashed AP with no any watchdog or central management device.

R500, R510 ,R710 purchase and expand the network at different times.

(A) All my AP wired the network cable to same switch, Should I need enable "Mesh" (the default is close)

(B) If I purchase R750 (AX) Wifi-6 to replace my R500 .

Any problem appear to when I add R750 (AX) Wifi-6 into my exiting WIFI-5 (AC)network?

Can I still control all AP in one portal webpage?

Thx all.

Re: Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500)

DarrelRhodes — Tue, 07 Dec 2021 10:24:03 GMT

Hi Darren,

You shouldn't enable Mesh unless you need the Mesh functionality. This is where you connect APs to the network wirelessly, rather than by an Ethernet cable back to a switch that is connected to the main network.

There are no issues mixing Wi-Fi 5 and Wi-Fi 6 access points. Wi-Fi 6 is backward compatible with all previous Wi-Fi standards. Unleashed can manage Wi-Fi 5 and 6 Access Points on the same system. Just as you're currently managing 802.11ac Wave 1 (R500) and Wave 2 (R710) on the same system today.

However you will need to upgrade your Unleashed network to a newer version to support the R750 APs models. Unleashed version 200.8 is the first release to support R750 and unfortunately this does not support R500. So you will need to replace all the legacy R500 APs with a newer model.

I hope that helps.

Best,
Darrel.

Re: Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500)

karthik — Tue, 07 Dec 2021 10:46:37 GMT

Hi Darren,

Mesh will be lower bandwidth than Wired. If you have wired cable connectivity, its the better option to go for.

To verify if all your models are supported, its better to check the release notes. Alternatively, you can also use this tool https://indhradhanush.github.io/rksunlfw/

Enter all your AP models and it will suggest the version it is supported.

Re: Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500)

sanjay_kumar — Tue, 07 Dec 2021 14:34:25 GMT

Hi @darren_lee

Adding to Darrel's comment, one other suggestion is to keep the higher model such as Wifi6 AP as leader instead of Wifi 5 AP.

This has the advantage of handling the load.

Regards,

Sanjay Kumar

Re: Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500)

darren_lee — Wed, 08 Dec 2021 01:14:58 GMT

Got it. Thank you darrel , sanjay ,karthik!!!

Re: Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500)

neil_ticktin_io — Wed, 15 Mar 2023 16:17:35 GMT

Darren, if you're still seeing these ... I have a R750 that is currently running Unleashed Version 200.13.6.1.319. I have a ton of R500's that I'd like to use to supplement the R750 and get a bit more coverage. I'm not worried about top end speeds in those situations ... and the number of clients is less than 25, and I'm not pushing bandwidth.

As I'm understanding this thread, for the R500's to think of the R750 as the master, it would have to be on version 200.8 or higher. But, R500's are EOL and only go to 200.7. In my case, I believe that 200.7.10.202.127 is the highest that I could find and what I have running ... but the R500 doesn't see the R750.

Two things: First, would really appreciate it if Ruckus would release the 200.8 version for R500. After all, those early adopters of Wave 1 shouldn't be penalized. Even if you can do a full 200.8+ for R500, maybe just a patch that allows it to recognize the R750 (and other current versions) if it's not overly burdensome.

Second, am I understanding from what you are saying that I can get the R500 to work if I pull them off ethernet, and let them instead mesh to the R750? Will the R750 still act as master?

Any other suggestions welcome (other than replacing all the R500s, that is).

Thanks!

Neil

Re: Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500)

neil_ticktin_io — Wed, 15 Mar 2023 16:35:48 GMT

@darrelmay One more thing ... is there a way to just downgrade the R750 to 200.7.10.202.118 ... or is that not the issue anyway?

Re: Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500)

neil_ticktin_io — Wed, 15 Mar 2023 16:38:06 GMT

@darrelmay Sorry Darrel, mean to tag @karthik . 🙂

Re: Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500)

karthik — Wed, 15 Mar 2023 17:38:15 GMT

200.7 did not have support for R750. 200.8 is the first version to support R750 as a new AP.

See https://indhradhanush.github.io/rksunlfw/ for AP compatibility with firmware versions.

Re: Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500)

neil_ticktin_io — Thu, 16 Mar 2023 01:15:32 GMT

@karthik Yep -- understood. There's no versions that overlap between R750 and R500. So, since I don't want to just throw away the R500's ... or limit myself to just R500's given the R750 sitting here, that leaves just the other item:

Am I understanding from what you are saying that I can get the R500 to work if I pull them off ethernet, and let them instead mesh to the R750? Will the R750 still act as master?

Re: Can the Wifi 6 AP compatible with Wifi 5 ? (Ruckus r750 ---Ruckus r500)

simple_user — Tue, 06 Jan 2026 22:43:57 GMT

@karthik Is the R500 still not compatible with the R750 as far as having the same firmware? I have 3 R500's and wanted to add an R750 for wifi6. Is this still not possible?